| fascinating to watch, as a martial artist and a skater. but I really liked the last quarter of it, where he concludes that nonviolent means are the best way--that violence only leads to bad things... I'm posting this to keep track of it b/c it's a clear sign of where I come from... When I was a kid, I had the Vallely Barnyard deck. I got it used off a guy. 9.5 inches wide. First of the new style of decks. I was living like I wanted to work for Bam, back then. Then Jesus comes and messes it all up. sweeeet. it's ironic to watch all 44 minutes of the vid, and see that Mike V is awakening to the point of how futile and dangerous it is to live by our own hands... that hardcore ethic gnaws at you... and can land you in jail, hospital, or hell... | |
Monday, December 18, 2006
Mike V - Greatest hits
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ReplyDeleteViolence always leads to bad things.
Jail
Hopsital
or Hell
Poor Jesus when he gave the smackdown in the Temple
Poor Jesus when he told the Hebrews to slaughter all...
Poor Jesus when he comes again and the reprobate are thrown into the winepress of God's fury.
For these are all lead to bad things, even if they came from God's own mouth/hand.
dude, what's the deal with this comment? I'm not sure what your point is, but you're clearly missing mine.
ReplyDeleteMatthew 5: "But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also."
all of us so-called Christian-types have to take these words to heart and ponder our lives, right?
so pardon me if I seem like I'm condescending to Jesus, somehow. (that's a stretch)
What I'm talking about is:
the POINT of what I'm saying is found in James 1:19
"My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, 20for man's anger does not bring about the righteous life that God desires."
Your comment is barbed, and missing the point. I'm not saying that violence isn't a part of life in this world. In fact, there are about 100 things that I'm not saying here that any one of you may be "hearing". How about "...listening..."
I'm sharing this video of a famous contemporary of mine, from my background, that illustrates something I have learned along with him.
Angry living isn't Godly living.
Angry living isn't Faithful living.
Angry living isn't Christian living.
boom. there. point made.
There IS a Biblical teaching about violence for us so-called-Christian-types. It's that we're to lay down our lives in love, faithfulness, good deeds, and righteousness... We're to suffer, too.
Our neglect of this, combined with our lust for political and military power, has totally confused the identity of Jesus in the world. Historically, this has been true of the majority of the institutional/visible church. that sucks.
btw, I'm a martial arts teacher, man. don't paint me like some wimpy, unthinking pacifistic dweeb. you got issues with someone? It must not be me, because i don't fit the profile you're writing to. Don't use me as a foil to criticise someone else, dude. Go comment on zach's blog.
The "point" (after you actually clarified it) of what you were trying to say is quite valid and indeed the Body of Christ is never to be ruled by anger, or the child of anger, violence.
ReplyDeleteHowever, what you orginally said was:
I really liked the last quarter of it, where he concludes that nonviolent means are the best way--[i]that violence only leads to bad things...[/i]
And I, also by the example of scripture, was arguing that not all violence proceeds from evil, nor is the result of all violent acts end in damnation. Surely not if God in flesh did it.
I'd like to adress a few more of your comments as well.
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In fact, there are about 100 things that I'm not saying here that any one of you may be "hearing". How about "...listening..."
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Can't
I don't have any face-to-face contact with you anymore. All I have got is what you write. And you wrote that "violence only leads to bad things" what am I supposed to conclude from that?
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Angry living isn't Godly living.
Angry living isn't Faithful living.
Angry living isn't Christian living.
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Where did I say Christians should be angry?
I didn't
I was speaking about violence. Prehaps you need to take your own advice from point one.
And finally,
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btw, I'm a martial arts teacher, man. don't paint me like some wimpy, unthinking pacifistic dweeb. you got issues with someone? It must not be me, because i don't fit the profile you're writing to. Don't use me as a foil to criticise someone else, dude. Go comment on zach's blog.
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I didn't paint you as anything. Don't get so defensive when I attack one thing you said.
I have issues with no one. I do have issues with what some people think.
You insunate that I have a problem with Zach.
Which I don't.
I disagree in the extreme with most of his views, but the man himself? Nah. Anyway, I am commanded to love him even if I had a problem with him.
And, when my blood pressure was lower, I was able to try to comment on his blog, but he always deleted what I had to say.
Prehaps you got confused... not all violence comes from anger; most may, but not all... But I could still ask about God's Wrath. That is clearly anger; but it's still holy.
Yes, my post was barbed. As is about evything I write. I do appricate that you didn't censor it, thanks.