Tuesday, May 31, 2005

I sat with a local pastor this morning, a real brother in the Lord. This guy gets it. He's on the journey, a real teacher to me. I am looking forward to years of trench work with him.

In our conversation, we crossed some ground where the treading is tricky. We were talking about how we're supposed to be "in the world" but not "of the world". How God calls us to "come out from among them", and how we're to walk that out.

My answer to him was, "right next to them", "right in front of them", "among them".
We are to walk out holiness boldly, in the darkness, shining as lights. We are to be salt, causing change, bringing grace. We are to be peacemakers, IN the war. You can't be a peace "maker" without conflict to "make" it out of. Otherwise, you're not a "maker". You are a talker, a maintainer, a... not a doer of the law, but a judge of it...

Here's a scripture:
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1 Corinthians 5:9-11 (New American Standard Bible)

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9I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people;

10I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world.

11But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler--not even to eat with such a one.
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We are to separate from someone, alright. But not from the people of the world who don't know God. They're following a very understandable course. They are dead in sin, and sinning is their nature, so far. But someone who is a believer is held to a very strict standard. We are supposed to follow this standard in our brotherhood with each other. We are to call out people who are fake, using religion to cover their darkness. We are to separate from false brethren. This is a thing that will show the world, looking on, what it means to be a christian.

It is tolerable for a person in darkness to stumble, for those who reject the truth to follow lies. Not pleasant, not truly tolerable in an eternal sense--we pray and work that they be loosed from the devil's bondage--but it's at least understandable. They are treated with mercy, at a distance.

But for a person to tread Christ underfoot, using religion as a cover, claiming to follow Christ, yet willfully, persistently indulging in sin, rejecting the help of the Spirit, Word and Body... this is unacceptable and will be met with Truth in Love, resulting in separation.

Now, if it's a person that's caught in a sin, but truly desiring freedom, and willing to pay the price of walking out repentance when they are offered the help of the Spirit, Word and Body, that's different.
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Galatians 6

1Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted.
2Bear one another's burdens, and thereby fulfill the law of Christ.

3For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
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Restoration is the name of the game, but there are many who have no taste for the cross, who bewail their sins, not turning from them. To them, their sins are like golden, diamond studded chains. They bring bondage, but are "precious"... Gollum reference...

So, if there were a community of saints, walking this out in intensity, with the readiness to be active in this, as a Body, with the Spirit leading and teaching them to abide in Christ... That would be a very interesting group. They'd be thought of as strange, within present Christendom, I think.

There are so many more scriptures to look at for this. These two are insufficient for a deep articulation of these important relational dynamics in the Body. But the truth will strip us. And fill us, and bear us fruit... fruit that will last...

So hit the dirt... repent... become filled with the Spirit by believing this incredible Grace. Remember that those who restore others are referred to as "nothing" in that Gal.6 thing. We are his beloved children, but it is He who does all our works. Let's get broken hearted.

6 comments:

  1. That is where we (K and I) were trying to go with you. When I see it all in print on this eriely-glowing screen, though, it makes me about wet my pants.... and this is not coarse joking... it's really scary stuff. And I know that the hammer could also fall on my head.
    -jjs

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  2. Thanks, Lew. It's helpful to place the 1 Cor 5 text ("not at all meaning the immoral of this world" alongside the 2 Cor. 6 one we talked about this morning ("come out from them . . . be separate from them"). The learning is definitely mutual! I am, however still intrigued by the word "mismatched" in 6:14. It's literally "differently yoked" and I think carries with it the connotation of "shared labor" (Compare it to Philip. 4:3, "yokefellow" / "companion" / "teammate"), so your example of not entering into a business relationship with an unbeliever is very apt. That still leaves us with some tricky territory to negotiate, like do believers or a Christian ministry partner with a non-Christians in community projects, for example?

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  3. Thanks, Lew. It's helpful to place the 1 Cor 5 text ("not at all meaning the immoral of this world" alongside the 2 Cor. 6 one we talked about this morning ("come out from them . . . be separate from them"). The learning is definitely mutual! I am, however still intrigued by the word "mismatched" in 6:14. It's literally "differently yoked" and I think carries with it the connotation of "shared labor" (Compare it to Philip. 4:3, "yokefellow" / "companion" / "teammate"), so your example of not entering into a business relationship with an unbeliever is very apt. That still leaves us with some tricky territory to negotiate, like do believers or a Christian ministry partner with a non-Christians in community projects, for example?

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  4. Thanks, Erwin.

    funny thing about questions like, "do believers or a Christian ministry partner with a non-Christians in community projects, for example?" is that their hypothetical nature renders them practically unanswerable for all the possible combinations of contingent outcomes... there are so many factors that might weigh in in such a discussion. There would be defensible positions on all sides, here. Some less, some more, but none completely compelling, possibly...

    I think that in life, the answer to such questions lies with the Holy Spirit's guidance, in the real-time life of the believer. Surely not just on a "mystical" level, though. There should be a heavy weighing of scripture, a plumbing of the depths of available Christian counsel, and a thorough preparation of prayer...

    no joking, though, God alone knows how much time lies behind us, lost to trying to figure out what to do when something that never happened would happen...

    Sometimes the Spirit's word (rhema) is, "try it." These are perplexing times. Surely not for the things the Bible clearly crosses off the list, but for the things like working with outsiders in service, mercy work, and the like...

    I think it's beatiful when Xians team up with folk of goodwill to relieve the suffering of people around the world... in fact, i'm sad when we start "new", "Christian" versions of extant, effective services. I love to see us INFILTRATE, rather than IMITATE.

    Salty.

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  5. Justin,

    may the mercy, grace, and truth of Christ protect your head from all hammers.

    Lew

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  6. i was reading matthew 23 today....interesting thing. as Jesus slams down these heavy "woes" it's intriguing to note he doesn't say anything about the stuff we see as the hugeist issues today in many churches: sexual immorality, homosexuality,crazy body piercings ;). Jesus talks about RELIGION! it's all about the stuff they (and we) were/are/could be guilty of as religious people. Jesus doesn't condemn religion, just the people who use it as a cover to make themselves feel all good about themselves. read the scrip and check out just how REAL his words are and just how convictingly applicable they are to us today (for example, look at what he says about giving a tenth...). bask in the grace. jp

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